Comments on: What is salvation without heaven? http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/ "The things which you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also." Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:57:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: dgoepfrich http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1158 dgoepfrich Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:19:21 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1158 I just posted my response here: <a href="http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven-response/" target="_blank">http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-...</a> I just posted my response here:

http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-...

]]> By: dgoepfrich http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 dgoepfrich Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:37 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1074 So if there was no promise of heaven, and your salvation was purely so that God would be worshiped, you wouldn't want to be saved? That's how I understand your answer. My problem isn't so much with heaven (looking forward to it, actually), but rather that it is used for the "hook". Is heaven the point of salvation, or is salvation something bigger? My response post coming soon... So if there was no promise of heaven, and your salvation was purely so that God would be worshiped, you wouldn't want to be saved?

That's how I understand your answer. My problem isn't so much with heaven (looking forward to it, actually), but rather that it is used for the "hook". Is heaven the point of salvation, or is salvation something bigger?

My response post coming soon…

]]> By: Michael1963 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Michael1963 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:48:56 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1072 I know I'm late in this conversation, but hears my two cents. As others have stated a personal relationship with God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit is worth it. He will be with me as I face life. He has comforted and sustained me in the darkest times of my life. For example when you hear that your loved one has only God as a chance to survive the next few days, so prepare the funeral. A personal relationship with God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit is a great trump card in my book. I know I'm late in this conversation, but hears my two cents. As others have stated a personal relationship with God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit is worth it. He will be with me as I face life. He has comforted and sustained me in the darkest times of my life. For example when you hear that your loved one has only God as a chance to survive the next few days, so prepare the funeral. A personal relationship with God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit is a great trump card in my book.

]]> By: dgoepfrich http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 dgoepfrich Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:28:46 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1069 Thanks for your comments everyone! They're still open, but I'll be posting my response here soon - http:<a href="http://www.danielgoepfrich.com" target="_blank">www.danielgoepfrich.com</a> Thanks for your comments everyone! They're still open, but I'll be posting my response here soon – http:http://www.danielgoepfrich.com

]]> By: dgoepfrich http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 dgoepfrich Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:28:12 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1070 That's a great perspective Michelle. That seems to be part of Paul's point in Philippians 1 - living benefits others, but dying brings us to God. That's a great perspective Michelle. That seems to be part of Paul's point in Philippians 1 – living benefits others, but dying brings us to God.

]]> By: dgoepfrich http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 dgoepfrich Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:26:56 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1068 I think that's a great way to help lead the conversation. One of the biggest problems in helping people come to Christ is that they don't know they need him at all. Trying to take someone to a place they don't want or feel they need to go is difficult. I think that's a great way to help lead the conversation. One of the biggest problems in helping people come to Christ is that they don't know they need him at all. Trying to take someone to a place they don't want or feel they need to go is difficult.

]]> By: Amos http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/what-is-salvation-without-heaven/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 Amos Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:34:15 +0000 http://www.danielgoepfrich.com/?p=1064#comment-1063 My relationship with our Father has blessed and continues to bless me in so many ways. I have peace in the storm of Life. I'm singing in a room full of sickness, and I have the Spirit inside me to help me stay on track. I cannot prove, other than by being an example, that God exists. If it isn't obvious enough for everyone, then they don't want to believe. I believe most people are searching for God, and that they DO want to believe, but have to argue with everything I'd tell them. Therefore, I'm not really cut out for missions work, am I? My relationship with our Father has blessed and continues to bless me in so many ways. I have peace in the storm of Life. I'm singing in a room full of sickness, and I have the Spirit inside me to help me stay on track. I cannot prove, other than by being an example, that God exists. If it isn't obvious enough for everyone, then they don't want to believe. I believe most people are searching for God, and that they DO want to believe, but have to argue with everything I'd tell them. Therefore, I'm not really cut out for missions work, am I?

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